Limyaael ([info]limyaael) wrote,
@ 2004-01-01 13:40:00
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Entry tags:characterization rants: villains, fantasy rants: winter 2004

I am going to be so messed up emotionally tonight.
Because:

1) I stayed up late last night.
2) I finished Queen At Any Moment, at 136,974 words. The ending really caught me up, and I wrote 5800 words in an hour and a half, which of course is a good thing. But I know that the high from finishing a book always catches me up in the evening and makes me crash, so that's coming.
3) I'm going to see ROTK this evening. I know well enough what that's going to do to me.

So I might as well write this rant while I'm still (marginally) sane.

First, one of my favorite (and simplest) verses from Swinburne, from "Hertha."

I bid you but be;
I have need not of prayer;
I have need of you free
As your mouths of mine air;
That my heart may be greater within me, beholding the fruits of me fair.



Some of this I've said before, but mostly scattered in other places, not in one single rant.

More admitting of biases: I think that fantasy can get along perfectly well without division of the world into Dark and Light, and that the best authors who write without it- Kay, Martin, Berg, Pratchett, Brust- also succeed in complicating their "evil" characters and making you sympathize with them (sometimes more than the heroes). But it is a great attraction to divide the world, and I think it can be done well.

I just wish people didn't do these.

1) It is apparently a requirement that villains be ugly. Or so the Dark Lords with their swarms of orcs and trolls and goblins seem to think. This is a cheap trick to tell the audience where their sympathies are supposed to lie. On the rare occasion that a good character is ugly, they have "inner beauty" instead, but no one seems interested in seeking the inner beauty of an orc. The only exceptions I can think of are some dragons, Glen Cook's Dark Lady (who is more often seen in illusion than in reality for most of the first trilogy), and some villains who put on false beauty in order to trick the good guys. Those last are still ugly underneath.

Is this really necessary?

I don't think so. Of course, making all the evil characters beautiful wouldn't solve everything, but as long as fantasy readers remain focused on outer beauty, it's a step in the right direction- that is, forcing your readers away from easy sympathies and making them think a little. If it's easy to hate a goblin but not an elf, put elves on the bad side and watch what happens.

2) Give them some credit for intelligence, too. It doesn't make much sense to have stupid people conquering the world. Either villains are really secretly intelligent until the hero comes along, at which point their wits drain away, or everyone else who tried to resist evil in the past was monumentally idiotic. The hero always seems to be not only more intelligent than his nemesis, but supremely more intelligent than his nemesis.

How did the nemesis become a nemesis, then?

Think about it. If the dark lords in fantasy really failed as badly most of the time as they do when confronting the heroes, their reigns should have ended centuries ago when they did something like leave a large and obvious loophole in their plans that their enemies could slip through. Lack of intelligence turns them cartoonish. Besides, it makes the suspense of the story turn to jello. No one is going to feel threatened, or should, by someone who tells the hero everything right before he kills him.

That's another thing, too.

3) Avoid the token signals that are supposed to act as flashing neon signs of EVIL. These include, but are not limited to: cackling, gloating, wearing all or only black, torturing people just for the hell of it, telling the enemy everything right before they kill him, "testing" the enemy in such a way that it gives him an opportunity to escape, and basically a bunch of other things on the Evil Overlord List. Unless you actually are writing a parody, they're flat-out silly by this point, and at best will smack of plot contrivance and interrupt the smooth flow of your story.

Of course, going to the opposite extreme and having the good guys wear black can also grind down a reader's patience. Try to create unique villains instead. Hey, you do it for the heroes, right? If you know a hero's history from beginning to end, and have taken time to understand his personality, why not do the same for a villain? Too often, the chapters written from a villain's point of view concentrate on how evil he is or are just there as a "fly on the wall" look at what the Dark is doing, while the good characters' chapters concentrate on them as people. To be absolutely corny about it: Villains are people, too.

4) If the heroes get kick-ass magic, the Dark should get kick-ass magic. I'm always puzzled when I read a fantasy story where the heroes seem to pull out magical swords practically from thin air, while the Dark Lord has to go through an immense amount of time-consuming research and dangerous rituals to get a weapon whose power never actually materializes before the heroes kill him. It's even worse when there's some half-assed "justification," like some weapons only being usable by the pure of heart blah blah blah. Much better to give the heroes an actual reason to fear the Dark Lord. If Sauron had had no other weapons to fight the war in LOTR than the Ring, he would have been a pathetic figure. Instead, Tolkien gave him the Nazgûl, and made the Ring something that would cause even more terror if Sauron got ahold of it, not the only source of terror.

This is the problem with having Dark Lords as immense shadowy figures, a threat in potentia instead of in reality. If they haven't actually done anything yet, why are the heroes so afraid?

5) Don't make the Dark Lord's plans undone by mere chance. This goes back to the leaving of loopholes mentioned above, but this doesn't always include stupid plans. There are some plans that sound as if they would work- except that the Dark Lord forgets something that everyone else in the world knows, like a child being born at a certain time to dethrone him, or else fails to stop one particular person or action even though you'd think he would bend all his strength to it.

Could someone really have ruled for a thousand years and built a dark empire and then forget that inconvenient prophecy stating the little girl born at midnight on the first day of April will one day wave her magic wand and blow him away? Or fail to watch out for children born on that day, and kill them all no matter what it takes? The Dark Lord is represented as ruthless most of the time, yet somehow he's never ruthless enough to kill all the children, or some such thing.

Concealment, such as the prophecy being kept a complete secret from the Dark Lord, can provide a possible out, but the longer it's supposed to go on the more obviously the scales are tilted in good's favor. Could any prophecy truly stay secret for a thousand years? It becomes increasingly unlikely with each passing decade, I would say, or even each passing year. This is especially true when the good guys somehow find out all the villain's plans in a much shorter time.

Let the villains be truly threatening- iron-clad plots, good spy networks, intelligent and complex contingency plans. Your heroes will have to work harder to defeat them, but it will look as if they have earned their victory.

6) Don't make your villains think of themselves as evil. Fantasy seems to be full of bad guys who revel in being bad, who think longingly about destroying all the good in the world, who should be able to look at the long track record of good winning and hesitate, but don't seem to care.

This reminds me of the argument that atheists really do believe in God and know they're going to be sent to Hell, but go on defying God anyway. Both are gryphon shit. Who in their right minds would turn against a force they knew was going to win? There has to be room for honest doubt as to which course is best- in the minds of the villains if nowhere else. And, as much as possible, the villains should believe that what they are doing is right. This especially applies if...

7) The moral standards are slipshod for no apparent reason. Somehow, actions that the good takes are fine, even if those actions include torture or the killing of children. The good guys may angst for a while, and sometimes- not very often- there's a nasty consequence or two, but everything is justified because they're doing it "for the greater good," or "for the unborn," or for the faceless, amorphous masses that justify so many actions in fantasy.

Whereas if the evil guy tortures one person, that's the end. There's no turning back, and there's no excusing it.

I want to drop-kick this philosophy from the highest tower I can find. What in the name of Conan is it doing here? How can moral standards be relativistic for the good guys but absolute for the bad ones?

Oh, wait, I know. The good guys are the ones the author wants me to sympathize with. Therefore, the angst and the gray actions are necessary for "character development," but they can't actually be allowed to affect my opinion of the good guys in any negative way. Thus the justifications.

Personally I think that implying any moral code in the order of the universe is silly, and that justifications and moral standards should remain in the characters' minds, not the authorial voice. But if you're going to aim for moral standards in the universe as it stands, so that one action is always wrong, for the love of your fantasy deities apply them consistently. Torture, murder, rape, or slavery should not stop being wrong just because the heroes do it.



It's amazing how often lately I find myself gritting my teeth at the good guys.




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[info]marumae
2004-01-01 08:15 pm UTC (link)
Don't forget to add Don't give your villains inadequate help, I can't count the number of times I've seen the young, unpracticed hero kick the living crap out of the villain's main henchment like he was nothing? What evil overlord in their right mind would put some one so incapeable of doing anything right,up there as their second in command? I think that could go along with your hero earning his or her victory.

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[info]silverbluesky
2004-01-02 02:59 am UTC (link)
Now that I think about it, inept henchmmen are common in most fantasies, as well as in Disney movies :P They've become a cliche in their own right.

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[info]limyaael
2004-01-02 03:33 am UTC (link)
Exactly. I don't care how miraculously gifted the teenage hero is; he still shouldn't be able to defeat an immortal, also wondrously skilled swordsman after just a few months of practice.

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[info]warnthepenguins
2004-01-03 01:53 am UTC (link)
One of the worst-plotted FP stories I've ever read involved a group of teenage wunderkinds who, after about 4 months of training by affable professors, wander into the forest and defeat a squadron of elite Evil Minions and the Evil General, who is apparently the Greatest Swordsman in All . That was utterly ridiculous. Gah.

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[info]ohmi02
2004-01-01 08:40 pm UTC (link)
Hi there... I ran across your livejournal, had a really great time last night reading all your old entries. I hope you don't mind if I add you to my friend's list?

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[info]limyaael
2004-01-02 03:32 am UTC (link)
Don't mind at all. *adds you back*

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[info]childofatlantis
2004-01-01 09:58 pm UTC (link)
1) ... except in anime, where the villains are frequently the most gorgeous people present. But then, everyone in anime is pretty, so I guess it evens out...

Another anime comment... the villain of "Yami no Matsuei" wears entirely white from head to foot, is a doctor and a politely-spoken man, physically attractive - and a pyschopath with a fixation on possessing/dominating the main character. He really, really frightens me - but funnily enough, he never seems to want to take over the world or subsume light, particularly... in fact, there are some hints that he sees himself as humanity's next messiah. I don't know if you're into anime at all, but he's one of the few villains I've come across recently who actually convinced me that he MUST be stopped, RIGHT NOW. *twitch*

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[info]chisotahn
2004-01-02 04:43 am UTC (link)
I was just about to mention the anime thing when I saw your comment, so I'll merely second it. ;)

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[info]erythros
2004-01-02 02:21 am UTC (link)
Hee. It's a shame that Babylon 5 doesn't strictly count as fantasy, because JMS did a fine, FINE job with the villains of that series - the Shadows and Morden and Londo "My Favorite Person Ever" Mollari. At the HEIGHT of his villainy, Londo is a charming, witty, clever fellow with a rigidly moral wife. And he wears all white and gold.

... Mister Morden is a lot like Rod Serling and wears black, but he's very polite and charming, so I suppose it balances.

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[info]selahstar
2004-01-02 02:58 am UTC (link)
Hee. I agree.

To sorta stray from the subject, IMO B5 has yet to be matched, as far as SF TV series go. I absolutely adore that series. Londo was great.

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[info]sligking
2005-10-05 04:24 am UTC (link)
I just noticed your icon. Do my eyes decieve me or is that a vorlon?

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[info]selahstar
2005-10-05 10:45 am UTC (link)
Wow, I forgot about this entry... been a while.

Yup, it's a Vorlon, as well as a Centauri (I think - looks like one at least) and a Minbari. :) No clue where I found the sign, but I love it.

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[info]sligking
2005-10-05 04:23 am UTC (link)
Was Londo really a villain? I would really consider him more a pawn than anything else. Personally, I always considered the Vorlons to be villains at least as bad as the shadows. At least with the shadows, you knew where you stood. The vorlons whole 'you ally with our enemies and we'll blow up your friggin' planet' thing put them squarely on the villain side to me, even if the humans and minbari where their allies.
God I miss B5.

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[info]erythros
2005-10-05 11:24 pm UTC (link)
Personally, I always considered the Vorlons to be villains at least as bad as the shadows.

Um. Duh? That was kind of the whole point. XD The entire moral of the show was 'kill your parents', know when it's time to grow up. The Shadows were the parents who beat you so you'd get stronger, and the Vorlons were the rigid oversmothering parents who wanted you to do what they said all the time. Of course the Vorlons were as bad as the Shadows; they were polar opposites. That's how JMS planned it.

As for Londo, I still think that he's a villain: more than that, he's the classic tragic hero, the man whose single flaw is his undoing. He does some bad things, things that were entirely his own idea as well as things that Mister Morden suggested. Of course he was used, but he still had to say "yes" first.

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[info]silverbluesky
2004-01-02 02:58 am UTC (link)
It's amazing how often lately I find myself gritting my teeth at the good guys.
I know that feeling. There are some times when I want the bad guys to actually win.

The best villain I've come across so far, I think, is the Angel Islington in Neil Gaiman's Neverwhere.

If you plan on reading this book, then feel free to skip the next paragraph, as it contains SPOILERS.

Islington is beautiful and clever. It uses intelligent and powerful henchmen (Mr. Croup and Mr. Vandemar). It shows concern for the protagonists, compassion, and regret for the loss of human life. But it destroyed Atlantis and is planning to take over Heaven. I thought he was one of the good guys, and even when it became clear that he was actually the villain, I found it hard to hate him.

(/end SPOILERS)

All in all, another informative and very useful rant. Good job!ü

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[info]nichol_storm
2004-01-02 04:11 am UTC (link)
silverbluesky: I know that feeling. There are some times when I want the bad guys to actually win.

There are some who do, but not many. I can think of Sulla from Colleen McCullough's "Masters of Rome", but he might be more of an anti-hero than a straight villain.

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Sulla generally causes all sorts of havoc. He murders his girlfriend, his stepmother, and his stepmother's nephew. He puts into action a plan that results in the demise of a thousand Germans. His first wife commits suicide because of him, and he cruelly divorces his second wife when she becomes inconvenient. He abandons two of his children and beats the hell out of his daughter when she defies him. He kills, he cheats, he manipulates, he schemes. He seizes power and makes himself DICTATOR of Rome. In the end, the only thing that can stop Sulla is old age.
(/SPOILERS)

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[info]silverbluesky
2004-01-02 05:01 am UTC (link)
Ooh, he sounds delicious ;-) Masters of Rome, eh? I'll definitely keep an eye out for that one the next time I go to a bookstore.

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[info]nichol_storm
2004-01-02 06:16 am UTC (link)
Oh, Sulla is delicious. In the hands of a lesser author, he might've become an EBIL!1 Marty-Stu, actually -- gorgeous, dark past, murderous, charimastic, etc. But McCullough makes him much, much more than that. The best thing is that he was a real person, a historical figure.

Sulla is, I think, an example of how to do an anti-hero right by putting enough interesting twists on the cliches and adding enough depth. I've seen very few writers, professional or fan, who could develop a villainous character as well as Sulla is developed.

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[info]arabel
2004-01-02 06:35 am UTC (link)
Oh, I adore Neverwhere. Fortunately I read the book before watching the series, and it's one of my all-time favourites. I love Croup and Vandemar!

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[info]irian
2004-01-02 02:53 pm UTC (link)
I am blown over. You have mentioned almost every pet peeve I have about villains in general.

I think that a lot of the things you've listed up there are part of the reason why I dislike Disney cartoons. Villains and good guys shouldn't be restricted to black and white.

The heroes *can* be wrong, and the villains can *indeed* have noble intentions behind their actions, no matter how "evil" they may appear to be. The "black and white syndrome" seems to be more prevalent in Western animation a la Disney.

Which probably explains why I prefer Japanese animation over Western. Case in point--Hayao Miyazaki. His "Mononoke Hime" (great movie. You should watch this, even if you don't generally watch anime) has a "villain" who cuts down the trees in the forest in order to get at the iron ore inside the mountains. Which ends up angering the forest gods because their forests have been defiled. She kills any of the forest spirits who would dare get in her way. In Disney's hands, her actions alone would make her the perfect heartless villain. But this woman doesn't cut down the trees for personal gain. The movie *shows* us the reason behind her actions, which is to support a colony of lepers and freed bondwomen/prostitutes that she has taken under her wing. And the supposed "good guys", the inhabitants of the forest, are actually shown to be petty and cruel in some instances.

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[info]marumae
2004-01-02 04:01 pm UTC (link)
*nods* I had to step in and agree on Mononoke Hime, one of my favorite stories of all times. She was one of my favorite characters, despite what she was doing to the forest. She was trying to support her town and keep it going, and *that* spoke volumes to me that she actually had a reason behind her "villanious" actions and the reasons weren't simply her reveling in her own evilness. Which I never understood >_>;

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[info]limyaael
2004-01-02 05:09 pm UTC (link)
Well, as you know, I don't watch a lot of TV or movies, but the Disney cartoons irritate me too. I don't even think they can excuse them with, "Well, it's a fairy tale! The characters are supposed to be simple!" because a) I've read fairy tales where that wasn't the case at all and b) fairy tales have to build up the atmosphere with things like the repetitive cadences of the telling (at least for me) to soothe me into dropping some of my expectations. I read the original Snow White tale recently, and what struck me was how the Queen- and this carries over to the Disney version- is the proactive and clever one, while Snow White is a dumb bunny. Whether or not they know it, they're doing themselves a disservice by not trying to move past stock villains; in this case, I think the Queen overwhelms the heroine.

(Of course, a lot of other fantasy fiction has this problem, too, but I think the Disney cartoons are especially penicious examples).

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[info]irian
2004-01-02 05:25 pm UTC (link)
You know, I found out the *real* story behine Snow White fairly young. I think I was 11 or so when I came across an article stating that the Grimms sanitized their collected tales and changed the villain from the girl's mother to her stepmother. And let's not forget the part where the stepmother was made to wear burning hot iron shoes and dance to her death. *grimace*

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[info]mariagoner
2004-01-03 12:40 am UTC (link)
Heheheh! Snow White! (See icon.)

But I do remember reading a retelling of Snow White where Snow and the Queen were actually equal adverseries. The Queen was more proactive, but Snow was deviously reactive. The Queen sent Snow White to be killed in the forest by the woodsman; Snow seduces him and runs when he's busy... doing something with her. The Queen comes after her with a series of poisoned gifts; Snow rather cleverly ends up using them on her.

And the best thing was... Snow White turned out to be rather less pure, innocent and simple than commonly thought. I'll try to see if I can dig it up somewhere at well.

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[info]reinderrocr
2005-01-23 05:14 pm UTC (link)
(Sorry to reply so long after this comment was posted. I'm still catching up on Limyaael's work)

There is of course Bitten Apple a great webcomic retelling the story with hardly any character coming out sympathetic. Subscription-only, I'm afraid, but just look at the Prologue. It's great stuff.

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Snow, Glass, Apples
[info]karenrei
2006-01-18 06:40 pm UTC (link)
Are you thinking of "Snow, Glass, Apples" by Neil Gaiman? I've never read it, but it sounds fascinating. A child with a face as pale as snow, and lips as red as blood - Snow White is actually vampiric to some extent, with powers to enchant. The stepmother quite justifiably sees herself as doing the world good in her attempts to kill off the ghastly child (who wins in the end).

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Re: Snow, Glass, Apples
[info]gehayi
2007-01-02 03:58 am UTC (link)
Here's the story:

Snow, Glass, Apples

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[info]nike_victory
2007-03-18 05:47 am UTC (link)
Hi, just discovered these rants and I must agree with you on the Disney cartoons, although one Disney cartoon in particular, Gargoyles, did an awesome job with it's villians.

Demona was given a beautifully complicated background where you felt for her and could understand where she came from. And it was never so much that the good guys defeated her as much as it was that they fought her to a stalemate.

David Xanatos was a pure optimist and half of the time when he was defeated, the plan called for him to be defeated while something more important happened elsewhere. And Owen Burnett will always be the most scarily efficient minion ever.

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[info]mindelemental
2005-05-20 06:10 am UTC (link)
Whoa, I was just thinking of her. Eboshi is one of my absolute favourite characters ever for that reason.

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[info]mariagoner
2004-01-03 12:29 am UTC (link)
It is apparently a requirement that villains be ugly.

A noteable exception tends to be put into affect for female villians though. Most of those end up being sex-pots. How about some average (or even just cute and endearing) looking villians?

It's amazingly hard to hate someone who looks like a loveable side-kick or the comic relief character, after all.

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[info]venusrain
2007-06-02 06:27 pm UTC (link)
Which is why even my rather bloodcrazed FMC hesistates to attack the main villian's cute little demon boy. Gluttony's a moronic fuzzball... that can chomp your arm off.

He'll take over the world with the power of his cuteness.

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[info]warnthepenguins
2004-01-03 02:38 am UTC (link)
When I read this, I remember one line from the old Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles show: "Ahh...it feels so good, to be so bad..."

It makes me crack up every time to remember that...it's so ridiculous on so many levels.

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[info]wondergecko
2005-05-20 05:44 am UTC (link)
Y'all may be interested in reading this response to, uh, not the whole list but just the idea that a villain shouldn't think he's evil:

http://www.livejournal.com/users/litagemini/158359.html

It's sort of like a Hegelian disjunction!

--Murky
PS: All very interesting. :D I will need to reread this later.

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[info]mindelemental
2005-05-20 06:09 am UTC (link)
And my response to the response?

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[info]psi_yamaneko
2005-05-20 04:26 pm UTC (link)
Heh. I just had a post relating to number 7 in one of my RPGs. :D

I agree with that one.

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[info]sligking
2005-10-05 04:31 am UTC (link)
I'm suddenly so proud of the villain(ess) in my story. Attractive but not half naked. Not personally magical, but has access to a few nifty magical relics and an halfway loyal archwizard. Fact is apart from owning slaves (a norm for her culture and she treats hers reasonably well) she hasn't done anything evil (unless you count trying to take over a continent that was once dominated by her percieved ancestors). Really, she's just the "villain" because the "heroes" oppose what she's doing. So far, all of the heroes have done more evil than she has, some of it much less forgiveable.

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[info]fluffy_evil
2005-10-17 10:49 am UTC (link)
I, in fact, have never seen an ugly villain that wasn't a cartoon.

All the villains I read about are handsome.

Well, the main ones anyway.

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[info]onyxflame
2006-02-16 05:38 am UTC (link)
One thing you haven't mentioned, which annoys the shit out of me, is something I call the Mordor Syndrome.

Why in [insert deity]'s name would any villain seek to make the whole world into a lifeless ball of rock and ash, with volcanoes spewing every 5 minutes? Don't get me wrong, I love LOTR, but I think Mordor started it all. I've never understood why Sauron's land was all icky and creepy, and why he wanted everywhere else to be that way too. Wouldn't it make sense for him to want to somehow steal all the green growing things from the rest of the world, so as to make everything outside his kingdom blah and sickly, while he basked in enchanted gardens with babbling brooks and mirror-like pools?

Closely related to this is the villain who wants to Destroy The World (TM). To me, this is stupidity at its highest (or lowest) level. Duh, Mr. Bad Guy, if you destroy the world, who will you have to dominate? (What would happen if some god created a world and then decided he screwed up and wanted to destroy it, though?)

As for characterizing villains, I rarely am able to get into their heads as easy as I can with the good guys. So at least with my current novel, I tend to have a lot less "pure good" or "pure evil" but rather just a bunch of people running around trying to execute plans that happen to screw each other up somewhere along the way. Even then though, I just don't "get" a mindset where someone is willing to sacrifice virgins because he thinks it's necessary to cast an immortality spell. What makes a person willing to murder someone, for ANY reason, not just a typically evil one? These are the kinds of things I'm still trying to figure out.

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[info]laraqua
2006-02-22 06:26 am UTC (link)
'Destroy the Worlders' can be done well. They just have to be angry and suicidal enough to want to "End All Pain" or something.

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[info]kjkhyperion
2007-02-05 04:00 am UTC (link)
Dr. Doom of Marvel comics, in the hands of a competent writer, is possibly the best Villain archetype in popular culture ever. He's evil because he's ambitious, petty, vain, arrogant and super-intelligent. My favorite take on Doom was his reimagining as "Count Otto von Doom the Handsome" in Neil Gaiman's 1602, as the title suggests a reimagining of the Marvel universe in the 17th century (a must-read for fantasy writers! Gaiman has some excellent world-building there).

As his nickname suggests, he's not disfigured (... yet), he is in fact quite handsome, albeit in a very rugged way. His evilness and limitless ambition is portrayed beautifully: in once scene he recreates the Galvani experiment, the one where you make dead frog legs twitch with electric currents, and all he can think is whether and how he could build an unstoppable army of electric zombies! He doesn't seem fazed in the least about the... marvels happening all around him, superpowered individuals, ancient artifacts, flying ships (!), all he can think when confronted with something new is how to bend and turn it to his advantage (in 1602's universe, he is quite notorious for imprisoning all his guests and visitors).

He's a villain that in pretty much any incarnation just commands respect.

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[info]azvolrien
2007-03-05 07:57 pm UTC (link)
You are awesome. I've been reading through a fair few of your rants, and I can see they're really going to help my writing. I saved the 'What to do when bored with your story' one onto my computer. That one's sure to come in handy.

Anyway. I've been trying to write a recent 'villain' as more of an antagonist than an outright villain. In fact, the only things that makes her an antagonist is that she really loathes dragons because she thinks one of them killed her father, and one of the protagonists is a young dragon, and that she doesn't have many problems with hurting people she doesn't really know to make them do what she wants. The crew of her airship all love her, even though she's never actually told them her name. She's called Isla Price (I've been trying to give all the human characters ordinary names), but her crew simply call her 'Captain'. Apart from being very tall she's nothing special to look at, but she's not hideous either.

But now I'm divided as to what to do with her. In the original version of the story she had much less of a personality and was killed by one of the dragons, but now I'm not sure how to, or even if I should, kill her. I'm not sure if she deserves it.

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[info]dark_infidel
2008-02-25 04:03 am UTC (link)
Thought I'd take this moment to thank you. Your rants make me think and the thinking improves my writing. Would it be alright if I friended you?

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