Limyaael ([info]limyaael) wrote,
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Telcom rant
"Telcom" is the cutesy abbreviation for "telepathic companion," those animals who follow the heroes around.



I have nothing against animal companions of the heroes- done properly. They tumble into clichés too easily.

1) Only pretty animals need apply. For most authors, that means horses, wolves, hawks and falcons, dragons, or cats. And not for practical reasons, either, such as the horse being able to carry the hero or the hawk being able to hunt food. They're cuuuute, so they get a free pass. When was the last time you saw a heroine with a swarm of cockroaches? Or, for that matter, a hero with a pig companion instead of a cat or a wolf? I've heard people say that would be ridiculous, but I don't see why a pig talking into your head is inherently sillier than a pretty white horse with blue eyes doing the same thing (*coughcough*Mercedes Lackey*cough*).

I've heard other people say these animals are the most intelligent ones. Bull. Pigs are smarter than horses, dogs, or cats, and if the heroes really were going to choose the cleverest animals to accompany them, then they'd be out with dolphins, gorillas, chimpanzees, or African gray parrots. Animals like horses are the animals that have been used, and they're acceptably cute. So other authors use them, and then the cliches overrun the fantasy.

Point being: Ask yourself if you really need a wolf to accompany your hero, or if you're doing it because ohmygod wolves are cool.

2) The animals are anthropomorphized out of existence as animals anyway. Most of the time, the author could replace the animal with a complacent human sidekick, and I wouldn't notice the difference. The animals have no unique qualities. They might gesture a few things, like a wolf baring his teeth, and have a few sounds like snarling, but that's it. They do things no animal can, such as smiling or crying, in a human's mind, and they are perfectly good and loyal and obedient to whatever ideals the human has (see point 3). No matter what animal the author chooses, that animal ends up acting like a perfectly trained dog who can also understand human language. What's the point?

If you want to write about a relationship between a human and an animal- more to the point, a relationship between a human and a telepathic, intelligent animal- think about the differences between them. Why would the human's ideals or goals be important to the animal? Why would a horse keep galloping instead of grazing to fill his empty belly? Why would a wolf abandon the hunt and come running to a human's whistle? Why would a hawk fly until he fell from the sky instead of pausing to rest his wings? If you do intend them to have personalities, then give them their own reasons for appreciating whatever their companion's trying to accomplish. Otherwise, they end up what they are in most fantasies, a passive mirror reflecting the hero's personality.

3) When they do have any personality, it's always the same. The telcoms are good, obedient, loyal, dependent on their humans, and clever only in the service of the hero or the quest. (They're also a handy out in circumstances where everyone else gets captured and the hero needs someone who can sneak in unnoticed). The heroine's falcon doesn't ever snap at her or anyone else, and he's never reluctant to give up his prey or return to her, even though those are traits of falcons trained to hand. As I said in the previous point, the telcoms give up all hint of animal personality when they become telcoms, and the personality they get in return is canned.

Just once, make the relationship more complicated. Perhaps the telcom snaps or snarks at the heroine as well as at her enemies, and doesn't constantly declare his faith in her when her spirits flag. Perhaps he doesn't especially want to help her, and wanders off at unpredictable intervals. Sharing minds is probably stressful some of the time, especially when one partner's in a bad mood, and not the perfect endless love a lot of fantasy authors portray it as. Let the telcom and the heroine argue. Make the grumbles more severe than the "Oh, I wanted to eat him!" that passes in a lot of telcom fantasy as "clever" banter. Most authors apparently want their telcoms to exist as true secondary characters, not shadows or extensions of the heroes. If you do that, then make them exist, and have lives and concerns of their own outside the hero.

One author who does the telcom relationship very well is Steven Brust. Vlad Taltos, the hero of one of his series, has a jhereg (flying poisonous lizard that feeds on carrion) named Loiosh, who is telepathic and his familiar since Vlad is a witch, but not Vlad's lovey-dovey companion. Loiosh snarks at everyone, including Vlad, and though he's very loyal, doesn't declare it all the time. He also gets upset about decisions that Vlad makes, and his mate, Rocza, has even less concern for human feelings. This makes Loiosh a true character in his own right, capable of acting independently from Vlad, and not just reflecting him emptily back.

4) Telcoms never suffer from natural danger. The cats don't get chased by dogs. The wolves don't get shot by hunters. The horses never founder or get sick. The bad guys might kill them and give the heroine a chance to cry fake tears before she marches to her equally fake victory, but everything else that could happen and usually lurks below the surface waiting to pounce is somehow sent far, far away.

This makes even less sense in most cases than it would if the heroine simply walked through a town with an openly telepathic wolf at her side, since some telcom fantasies are obsessed with secrecy. No one must find out that the heroine talks to a wolf, for whatever reason. So the hunters have no reason not to shoot a dangerous beast who shows little fear of humans and is lurking around the village. Yet they don't. And if they express fear of the animals, dragons included, after finding out about the telepathy, the heroine castigates them. How dare they be afraid of a growling dragon big enough to swallow them whole and capable of charbroiling them first? He's her fweind!

5) Telcoms disappear whenever the author needs them to. Whole chapters can pass without mention of the falcon that the heroine sent away to scout, or the magical horse the hero left on the boundaries of the town. Somehow the animals never resent the treatment the heroes give them, always perform their assigned functions, and find their human companions perfectly. Nor do they ever have trouble finding food, even in a heavily settled valley, or accommodations, though the horses seem to get left at the door of the inn more often than put into stables.

If you don't attend to any other level of reality, at least attend to this one. Animals need a lot of care, particularly if they're large animals like horses, wolves, or big cats, and letting them loose in the middle of a crowded city is not a particularly good idea. What happens if someone steals them? If someone recognizes the animal and concludes the hero must be in town? If the hawk can't find enough to eat and becomes sick from lack of food? None of these wind up happening, but only because telcoms seem invisible and insubstantial when the spotlight moves off them. This happens to human secondary characters, too, but at least the humans can walk into an inn and order a meal, even if it's not the one the hero is supping at. Telcoms can't take care of themselves that way.

6) Telcoms tend to function too often as talismans. This happens with both Mercedes Lackey and Anne McCaffrey. It's not really the bond with a Companion- pretty white horse with blue eyes previously mentioned- or a dragon that's important to the story. It's a gratuitous sign that the hero is Cool, instead, and grants him entrance to a "special" groups where people have amazing mental powers and privileged positions and freer sexuality than the rest of society. It's one more twist of the ultimate teenage wish fulfillment fantasy. The heroes and heroines are often abused, mistreated, or too good for their families, but everyone around them refuses to acknowledge their uniqueness. Riding off with a Companion or a dragon is a symbol of that uniqueness, and the family usually bows down and is appropriately humbled.

In time, if you have a group like this, the focus moves off the group's existence and to how Special the heroes are. The Heralds help keep the peace and solve crimes in Mercedes Lackey's universe, but most of the stories aren't about that. They're about the Heralds getting Appreciated and having sex instead. Similarly, McCaffrey's dragonriders spend some time fighting Thread, the menace the dragons were created to fight, but it declines as the books go on, and more pages are spent on who's sleeping with whom or who's having kids with whom than on the training or the fighting or the bonds with the dragons. In both cases, the telcoms become comforts to their owners, sounding boards, the perfect understanding friend. The telepathy is just one more amazing magical power, no different than any other.

Doesn't that rather cheapen the presence of the telepathic animals in the story?



I recently bought a book that looked interesting, and only after I bought it did I realize that the book talked about the heroine bonding with a special hawk who "needs" her. I'm now scared to start it.




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[info]bbhtryoink
2004-03-22 07:44 pm UTC (link)
Regarding how telepathic animals and their "familiars" bond with eachother:

Jordan get's a positive point here. True, they aren't animals, but Aes Sedai's bonds with their Warders are excellent examples of what sort of thing could be done with this. It's like a limited mind-link: the two linked humans can tell in what direction their partner is and roughly how far away, they feel eachother's emotions (but not their thoughts), and one (the Warders) gets increased strength, endurance, etc while the other (the Aes Sedai) can compel the Warder to fight for her.

Jordan takes this arrangement and makes it work. For starters, he hints that not all Warders were Bonded as per their will, adding an element of realism. He also includes a few spats between the Warder and the Aes Sedai (although truthfully, he's limited in that extent, since an Aes Sedai can control her Warder, though she generally chooses not to) and he doesn't blow the extra powers all out of proportion: Warders are not indefaughable. I also like what he did with the emotion-bond: one person can act like a calming anchor for the other if they get very angry, but also, if the two of them feel the same emotion strongly at the same time, the emotion can rebound continously between them and quickly get out of control.

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[info]shati
2004-03-22 07:56 pm UTC (link)
I think that #3-6 are good things to keep in mind, but #1 makes my inner child cry.

Ask yourself if you really need a wolf to accompany your hero, or if you're doing it because ohmygod wolves are cool.

Is this really a bad reason? It probably depends on your target audience, but as far as I know, in many cases the wolf/cat/horse thing works because large numbers of the people who read Telcom stories think the featured animal is cool. I think I enjoyed Anne McCaffrey's dragon books o' doom in a large part thanks to the coolness of the fire lizards (not so much the dragons, who, among other things, suffered from #3), and that was probably 90% of the appeal of Tamora Pierce's Immortals quartet.

Granted, it can be done in a cliched manner, same old same old, but I think there's a perfectly valid reason for the pretty-cuddly-animal monopoly -- lots of people enjoy reading about them! There's an appeal in having an exotic/romantic/special pet, and I think the ideal Telcom would make that work in its favor.

Of course, on the other hand, it could be interesting to read about someone's telepathic pet frog. It's just that given the choice between a mediocre frog story and a mediocre horse story, I'd go for the horse (that is, if I were reading for entertainment and not for my inner sense of irony. And if they were both good, I'd read them both).

[/rambling]

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[info]limyaael
2004-03-22 08:12 pm UTC (link)
1 works with the others, though. Say the heroine has a telepathic horse. But it never grazes, and it never shits, and it never gets tired, and it never has to have accommodations in stables. For me, that takes the fascination off quite quickly. The author isn't taking into account that the physical form is still a horse's, even if the mind isn't. It's of a piece with the Amazing Mechanical Horses of most fantasy, with the added irritation that this horse can talk, so you'd think the heroine would take better care of it.

I did like fire lizards, but I noticed that I found those same books unreadable as I grew out of my teenage years. And I've never really understood the appeal of Tamora Pierce. She's too fluffy for me. I know an audience exists for her books, but she does exactly the sort of thing that peeves me, so she doesn't appeal to me.

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[info]marumae
2004-03-22 08:04 pm UTC (link)
I'd have to agree about the "is wolf really a bad thing?" well...Wolves are cool. *laughs* But on the whole yes I agree with what you've said for some of this, but I imagine Horses, Cats and Dogs are the most commonly used probably because they are the most convienent. I mean you can't drag a pig into a market square or have a pig sneak up window frames and spy on people for you like a cat can. There are some places where wild animals can't go, but then again, it's the same with dogs and cats. Horses for carying are just convienient, but giving them unique personalities is definately desired. The animal compatriot is usually snarky beyond belief and mercilessly teases the hero who, for reasons unknown to me doesn't tell them to shove their telepathic, superior heads up their telepathic asses... but that's just me.

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[info]limyaael
2004-03-22 08:15 pm UTC (link)
I wouldn't even really object to using animals in clever ways if it was done with some attention to detail. For example, say a cat breaks a window. If it's a glass window (rare but not impossible in some fantasy worlds), then how does it avoid hurting its paw? I imagine the glass would shatter and cut very deeply. If it's a shuttered window, how does it reach through and manipulate the latch holding the shutters closed? That would probably be impossible unless the latch was very low and the cat had very long legs.

Things like that are why I find telcoms more of a convenience in many stories than a serious attempt to introduce something special. They do what the author needs them to and disappear when they've done it, like Plot Devices...which is exactly what they are, of course, ill-done.

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[info]eldena
2004-03-22 08:04 pm UTC (link)
Telepathic pig. I like it.
I'm getting visions of one of my characters pointing at the pig and proclaiming, "It's a DRAGON!" all dramatically. (Because s/he is a scholar who classifies most magical animals as dragons!)

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[info]erythros
2004-03-22 08:19 pm UTC (link)
Wait, what? YOu don't remember HEN WEN, the oracular pig from the Chronicles of Prydain? TELL ME YOU DIDN'T FORGET ABOUT HEN WEN!

I am choosing to believe that you left that statement about heroes with pig companions as a troll.

In other news, now I'm going to be giggling about Doctor Doolittle all night long. Hurray for Polynesia, best bird companion ever!

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[info]limyaael
2004-03-22 08:27 pm UTC (link)
I last read the Prydain books...*counts* eight years ago, and I think I only ever fully read the first and the last. So yes, I did forget about that. Anyway, as far as I know she didn't actually get to go along on the quest.

(By the way, the Pel/Aliera story is insisting on being a long one, and I don't have Five Hundred Years After with me right now. Can you tell me where Pel was when Mario had sex with Aliera? It's important. And your fault).

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[info]ursulav
2004-03-22 08:46 pm UTC (link)
Since they were probably concieved in direct opposition to all those stereotypes, I quite liked the alien nighthorses in Cherryh's "Rider at the Gate" and "Cloud's Rider" who never did anything their owners wanted, were always near to going dangerously insane and killing everybody if their riders got too upset, and whose chief ambition in life was raw bacon (and in fact functioned as an anti-talisman--hmm, goin' right down the list...)

As another pet peeve, how come animals always think in human languages? I realize it's a convention of telepathy, but having something that DIDN'T think in coherent, punctuated English phrases is a lot more interesting.

"Animantist" had a guy accidentally bond telepathically to a rat, which proved a problem, because A) it's a rat, and B) the lifespan of a rat being two years, he was in rather great danger when it died. Which was a nice touch, since all the telecoms seem to have human lifespans, too...

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[info]eldena
2004-03-22 09:06 pm UTC (link)
Well, which do you want to be stuck with for five hundred pages?
"The wolf returned to Krystal and showed her a general impression of the three horrible men, or what he believed to be them, since he had trouble discerning different humans by sight, and hadn't gotten a very good example of their scent; if he was correct, they were holed up in a small wooden building, perhaps the village's one inn."
Or...
"I think they're over there."

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[info]kadaria
2004-03-22 09:10 pm UTC (link)
I'd actually like to see a human and an animal bonding for the sake of friendship.
Not for the animal to be used or for the human to look cool.
My favorite fantasy human and animal bond was actually between Shasta, a young boy and Bree and talking horse in 'The Horse and His Boy'. It was a chronicle of Narnia where Shasta is stolen by Bree, who is enslaved as a war horse in Tashbaan. The book centers around their escape to Narnia.
Shasta has grown up with an abusive step-father and as a result is very timid. In contrast, Bree is very vain. All through their escape, he can only think about what the real Narinian horses are going to think of him. He constantly picks on Shasta, though he really does care for him and understands that he is "only a foal".

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[info]limyaael
2004-03-23 03:37 pm UTC (link)
I loved that story, though I think it was at least partly different since Bree could talk aloud and not telepathically.

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[info]gisho
2004-03-22 09:13 pm UTC (link)
In recognition of pigs, I feel obliged to make brief mention of Gullinbursti, Freyr's flying golden boar. As I recall Freyja also had two boars that pulled her chariot. No word on whether the cretures in question were telepathic, but one presumes they were pretty smart. </Norse Mythology geek>

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[info]kadaria
2004-03-23 10:14 am UTC (link)
I thought her chariot was pulled by cats though because she was their patron goddess.

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[info]klgaffney
2004-03-22 09:16 pm UTC (link)
ugh...the minute a telecom shows up, that usually prompts me to close a book. i don't mind familiars, but i prefer for them to behave as natural animals. they can be commanded them to perform simple tasks independently, scout, etc. and/or their masters can look thru their eyes, but there's not a human intelligence there. the syrupy sweetness or the "witty" snarkiness of most of them make me want to scream and throw the book away, and that's even without bring up realistic animal behavior or the typical human reaction to it.

as far as bonding goes, you could probably write another whole rant about that. all too often, bonding is this lovely wonderful connection, something that, if present, makes a relationship perfect (or something close to it, beneath all the cheesy snark). there are no lifespan issues, there are no personality issues (what happens when a life bond goes sour, hmm?), what if everything just plain goes all to hell and you're stuck with this telcom forever, stuck with their emotions and their thoughts (i can't think which is worse, if those thoughts are purely animal or if you were sharing your head with something of human intelligence that simply didn't like you?) .

i think just in violent backlash to every sweet and fluffy fantasy bonded relationship, all of my bonded relationships have had some sort of bumpy paths, (because yes, even in a loving relationship, there are Issues.) and that's only if the relationsip their involved in isn't downright messed up to begin with. i mean how many people's first relationships turned out just perfect? could you imagine being pairbonded to such a person? now how about a powerful mystical animal of incredible intellegence that you Just Met? what are your chances of making that last?

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[info]limyaael
2004-03-23 03:38 pm UTC (link)
Thanks for this comment! It inspired me to write the next rant.

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[info]illian
2004-03-22 09:57 pm UTC (link)
I think I know which book you are referring to. I enjoyed it but I have a rather high tolerance for junk in books (when you can read a Jordan in 3 days you have to or otherwise you run out of reading material rather rapidly).

I'd probably give it a B- for a fantasy. I'd say more but I'm not certain how much I can say without utterly spoiling the story for you.

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[info]limyaael
2004-03-23 03:40 pm UTC (link)
I probably will end up reading it, since I bought it, so thanks for your restraint. I try to give new authors a chance; I've discovered some of my favorite authors that way. Sometimes it doesn't work, of course, and this might be one of those times.

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[info]chisotahn
2004-03-22 11:14 pm UTC (link)
Very interesting, very GOOD points. Now that I think of it, I don't think I use straight 'telecoms' in ANY of my worlds... the closest is Elderath where beings (usually a human and a nonhuman for maximum benefit, but not always) can bond minds. Of course, in that case it's only between fully sentient races, not animal-human.

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[info]jenlittlebottom
2004-03-23 12:18 am UTC (link)
Four words: Gaspode The Wonder Dog. (Okay, not telepathic, but as animal companions go...)

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[info]undeadgoat
2004-03-23 04:16 pm UTC (link)
Gaspode kicks @$$! Err, yes. And I like the Duck Man's duck, but it isn't telepathic.

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[info]billradish
2004-03-23 01:53 am UTC (link)
I'd love to see someone bonded with a squid or other cephalopod. Intelligent, odd and not particularly helpful for the human, being not easily transportable.

But then, I also have an insane love of squids.

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[info]skalja
2004-12-24 12:03 am UTC (link)
Not to mention savagely predatory, fragile outside of a certain environmental range and rather short-lived.

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[info]nobodys_grrl
2004-03-23 03:56 am UTC (link)
As a horse person, #2 really struck a nerve. It just struck me that people can bond with their horse without telepathy and mind sharing and all that, and personally I think it would be a much more interesting process. The bond between horse and rider is more complicated than simple friendship. Horses aren't humans, and they don't behave like humans either. The same goes for other animals. What I think is that writers need to study the animal in question's natural behaviour and incorporate the relationship into that, rather than just doing the lazy thing and making the animal human.

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[info]limyaael
2004-03-23 03:42 pm UTC (link)
Exactly. Wouldn't a horse feel a leetle uneasy around someone who doesn't hesitate to use spurs and reins to get her way? What about someone who eats meat, or rides horses around? The differences don't vanish just because the author wants them to.

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[info]haikujaguar
2004-03-23 06:26 am UTC (link)
If it's the book I'm thinking about, I believe one of the people in it is bonded to a weasel.

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[info]tavalya_ra
2004-03-23 06:36 am UTC (link)
2. My telecoms do have human personalities but there is an explanation for it. Before cementing the bond with a human, the telecom (in this case a raven) has very limited intelligence. If the raven is unbonded, it does not know or care what it is missing. Bonding opens the higher-level functions of the brain. This gives the raven an urge to things that are only physically capable for humans- but normally this isn't a problem because they experience the sensation of the human accomplishing it. The big problem is if the human dies- the raven either commits suicide or goes nuts. This sometimes happens to the human if the raven dies, but humans have a better survival rate. (Not a fantastic one, but still better.)
The relationship goes two ways- neither is subordinate to the other. If there is a dominant member in the pair, it isn't necessarily the human- it can be the raven. It depends upon who has a naturally dominant personality. They function as a single unit, at least to the outside world. Their inner life is much more complicated. It's not something anyone can take lightly- it's inviting someone into your head for every single moment of the rest of your life and they are not going to leave.

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[info]limyaael
2004-03-23 03:42 pm UTC (link)
Hm. If the raven isn't intelligent before the bond takes place, how does the person ever know if the bond would be worth taking the risk? It seems like something only the deranged or desperate would do.

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[info]irian
2004-03-23 06:57 am UTC (link)
How about totem animals, like the ones Native Americans used to have? What happens with a totem animal is actually the reverse of a telcom--the human takes on the characteristics of the animal totem. While there is not actual mention of telepathy, it is assumed that the human can understand the totem animal and vice versa.

Oh, and I read "telcom" and "telecom" at first, so I thought for a second that you were writing a rant about mobile phones or something. Lol.

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[info]limyaael
2004-03-23 03:43 pm UTC (link)
I haven't read much Native-American-based fantasy (other than the obvious bad "in harmony with the earth" ripoffs), so I can't really comment on this. I have seen a few fantasy authors who played with the humans taking on animal characteristics, but always the positive ones (keener senses, for example) and no negative ones (like the sudden urge to chase cats).

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[info]castiron
2004-03-23 07:16 am UTC (link)
That was one thing I liked about Mary Frances Zambreno's A Plague of Wizards -- the young hero gets a skunk for a familiar. Which leads to great mayhem.

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[info]troubadour118
2004-03-23 08:26 am UTC (link)
An excellent twist on the telcom archetype, told from the POV of the telcom, is The Amulet of Samarkand by Jonathan Stroud. The main character is a djinni who is forced into a telcom relationship by circumstances beyond his control and spends most of the book trying to get out of it and dupe his master while also having to do what the master wants of him and survive. (It's also an excellent example of good urban fantasy, in a way, being set in a modern-day England where Parliament is composed entirely of male magic users).

I also want to take the opportunity to tell you how informative, thought-provoking, and on-target your rants are. Whenever I sit down to write now, I keep your advisings close to heart because they truly do make for good guidelines to engaging storytelling. Thanks for sharing your insights with us.

Would you mind if I friended this journal, as well as some of your writing journals? After reading your excellently written discourses here, I'm curious to read some of your original fiction work.

~Mark

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[info]limyaael
2004-03-23 03:46 pm UTC (link)
Thank you for the recommendation. I think I've heard of that, but I thought it was sword-and-sorcery, and wouldn't pick it up without more information.

And thank you for the compliments! You're welcome to friend me and my writing journals if you want. *friends you back*

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[info]avrelia
2004-03-23 08:32 am UTC (link)
Hi! I found your LJ by a long route, and I am very happy I did. I am now a halfway through your fantasy rants, but I don’t know if you are reading comments to the old entries, so I didn’t comment to them.
About this one:
1) the choice of animals. The traditional choice of a horse, a wolf, a hawk, a cat is, well, traditional. The most fairy tales (European) I read - and I read too much of them for my own good - have them as a magical companions or as an animal the hero can turn into. I suppose there is viable anthropological explanation to it. So, it may make a perfect sense for an author of a fantasy to have one of those, too, if he plays with a fairy tale traditions. Of course, nobody has to be bound by tradition, and the best idea for authors would be to ask themselves why they are choosing this animal, but not that one and come up with some answer.

Agreed on all other points. All the characters should have specific personalities, animals included, and the attention to details never hurt the story.

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[info]limyaael
2004-03-23 03:48 pm UTC (link)
Hello and welcome!

Some animals are traditional, but the telepathic bond isn't (so far as I know). The animal accompanies the character and speaks aloud. That's fine by me, since it obviously separates the wolf from all the other wolves, the dog from all the other dogs, etc., or it takes place in a world where all animals talk (like Narnia).

Also, it doesn't account for the use of "pretty" fantasy animals like phoenixes, dragons, unicorns, and pegasi. I think appearance and the way an animal moves has an awful lot to do with it.

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[info]starfishofelves
2004-03-23 05:23 pm UTC (link)
I want to see one of those ranger-type heroes end up bonded to a dolphin or some such marine animal, and then have to lug it around wrapped up in wet cloth or something.

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[info]warnthepenguins
2004-03-23 09:13 pm UTC (link)
Remember in "The Golden Compass," when you hear about the old sailor whose daemon manifested as a dolphin, so he could never go ashore? Wouldn't that *suck*?

And I have one word:

GOAT.

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[info]nextian
2004-03-24 08:17 pm UTC (link)
While everyone's recommending books that do a good job of addressing this:

Spirit Fox. Overall, mostly a junk book, but the authors did a very thorough thinking-through of the concept. For example, communication is translated into to human words on paper because that's the way the human's brain interprets the animal's body language. There's a reason for it--two living things born at the same time, in roughly the same place. And sometimes that means getting bonded to a rat or a spider. Mammalian animals bond better because their minds are closer to humans, so pigs and cats and horses (etc) are more likely to become bondmates. The personalities blend in a bonding, so that the anthropomorphic cats and horses make sense. In other words, the authors come up with a reasoning for most of the cliches and then amplify the animal aspects of the bond so that it's not unbearable.

Also, I give up. I've been happily spamming your journal for a while, trying to keep my friends list down to 42, but I would love to have your rants delivered to my friends page. ^_^:: So: may I friend you, you soul of genius you?

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[info]limyaael
2004-03-24 08:42 pm UTC (link)
I think I have that book somewhere. I don't know if I managed to finish it before it was packed away, but though the concept sounds familiar, I can't remember how it ended, so probably not. Thanks for reminding me!

And go ahead and friend me, if you like. ;) *does the same*

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Re: Pigs
[info]tistur
2004-03-24 09:27 pm UTC (link)
I read this rant and thought of a story I had read a while ago involving a women and pigs. I picked up a book in the library yesterday (Reave the Just and Other Tales, by Stephen R. Donaldson), that has the story - "The Women Who Loved Pigs". I haven't re-read it, but I seem to remember it being fairly depressing.

#2/3 - First thought upon reading this: Robin Hobb!

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[info]mysticpenguin
2004-03-27 12:03 am UTC (link)
One of the biggest things about telcom stories that bugs me is the human who makes up the other half of the relationship. The reason I hate most of those stories is that quite often the human telepath is a flaming Mary Sue with no reason for forming a bond to the telepathic animal other than that the author thinks it would be fun to have that power. I want a human telepath that has some reasonable connection to the animal. The best example I can think of is in PTerry's "Fifth Elephant," where Angua is able to communicate with the leader of the real wolves because she herself is a werewolf. "Cause she's the prettiest and the smartest and the bestest!" isn't a reason.

I see so many stories that are about the sweet, demure daughter of some oppressive family/society who runs away from home with the help of her animuh fwiend. I mean, why? What does Ms. Sue have to offer that would possibly impress, say, a wild panther or unbroken stallion? Even if she saves them from some grave peril, I really doubt that animals, even magical mind-speaking ones, understand the concept of "gratitude." And if she's from a background where all she does is moon around pining about not being allowed to reach her True Potential as a Womyn, where on earth would she learn the experience to even begin relating to those animals? All I see happening the first time someone that wimpy tries to dominate the stallion or a wolf is the animal's response being, "Um, excuse me? *chomp (kick/otherwise injure)* 'S right, bitch. Remember next time which of us is in charge."

It seems like most telepaths get their animal companions as a reward for their Sueish qualities--the animal is attracted to them because they're kind, or pretty, or otherwise paragons of virtue. Just once I want to see some chain-smoking, foul-mouthed sleazeball get a telepathic companion. Especially a really noble one-- "Ah, damnit, where had that eagle gone? :Mojo!: he sent. :Get your mangy ass in here and bring me another fucking beer! Stripperella is almost on, and if you make me miss any of it I'll roast you for dinner!:"

You've given me such wonderfully horrible ideas for my own work. I just can't shake the idea of some telcom pair being lynched (or almost, depending on the way the story breaks) after the major predator animal companion happened to eat a kid or something when it was left alone in town. Thanks! Also, I've been lurking for a bit and very much enjoy reading your essays. Do you mind if I add your journal to my friends list?

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[info]limyaael
2004-03-27 08:14 am UTC (link)
I wouldn't mind if you added my journal at all. *friends you back*

You're completely right about most telcom heroines, I think. Talia from Mercedes Lackey's trilogy is the most grevious example that springs to mind (she has just about every cliché, including the powerful stallion), but I've read far too many stories where the Mary Sue gets the telcom, like the love of everyone around her, just because she's Mary Sue.

I would so love to see a story written like the one you describe. The animals should be animals, even if they are intelligent; they still have animal bodies, after all, that require large amounts of food and have different needs than human ones.

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