Limyaael ([info]limyaael) wrote,
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Rebel rant part two
Well, this is somewhat later than I promised, but here goes.



6) Consider the rebellion’s catalyst event carefully. What made people stop tolerating a regime that may have had tolerable points, or one that they had some other reason to obey—a divine right of kings mandate, for example—and become rebels? There’s often some event that people can point to and say, “That was it, that was what lit the fire.” Even if there are some smaller events leading up to it, people tend to pick one dramatic one and hang on to it in their minds. Before it, there were no rebels. After it, the rulers have something to fear.

Fantasy often doesn’t handle this too well, not necessarily because fantasy authors lack a sense of the dramatic but because they are too well-indoctrinated with twentieth- and twenty-first century standards. For example, a member of a persecuted group is killed. But if the group was already being persecuted, what was it about this death that set everybody off? The author either has to backtrack and explain what about that particular person was so special, something that most of them are reluctant to do, or introduce a strong, personable, and involving character and then kill her off, which they don’t want to do either. A death is most affecting when it happens to someone we know or come to know, though, not someone faceless. A person who is faceless needs special conditions to set off the mob, such as it being an extraordinarily public or messy execution. It can sometimes “just happen,” but if the reader doesn’t understand those circumstances, there is one unhappy reader on the other side of the book.

Another problem is that authors forget about lack of global communication in most fantasy worlds again. People a thousand miles away know about the death the next morning, and set plans in motion to attack the rulers. How? A coordinated system of rebel communication is possible, but whether they have a secret postal system, a Pony Express waiting to run and carry the news, or super-fast messenger birds, it needs to be accounted for.

Also consider why the catalyst event happened the way it did. The government has a popular rebel leader in its hands, and murmurs of discontent are stirring. Why are they going to execute her and make her a martyr? There are lots of possible reasons—fear, confusion, ignorance of how powerful the discontent really is, the feeling that they’ll “make an example” of her—but too often the fantasy author seizes on the flimsiest one, that the ruler is just a sadistic bastard. Right. Why aren’t all the prisoners executed that way, then? And why have people tolerated him as long as they have, if he does execute everybody that way? Again, you come back to the problem of making that death special in a realistic way.

7) If the rebels are outgunned, keep some sense of perspective. The ruling government is often portrayed as rich in weapons, magic, money, stupid minions willing to die for it, and the support of most of the population. The rebels are poor in everything except spunk. And then they win.

Please.

The rebels have to get weapons from somewhere. Weapons cost money, and probably one super-secret armory stuffed with the magical blades of old is all the reader is willing to allow you. Then how are they going to train in time? How are they going to convince mercenaries, one often turned-to solution, to fight for them? (No, the heroine should not smile at the mercenary captain and melt his icy heart. Even if she does that, she can’t convince his whole company that way). If they despise a lot of the surrounding population, as super-sekrit speshul groups tend to do, where are they going to get the numbers to even make a realistic strike?

There’s a very, very simple and obvious solution to that, one well-represented in world history: bring in another country that doesn’t like the ruling government. The American colonies brought in the French government, which was willing to help because they weren’t just snuggling up to England. French weapons, troops, ships, and training made the difference. Yes, there was diplomacy and treaties to get it to work, which might be boring to represent in a fantasy novel (or at least more challenging to write than endless battle scenes). The process could be compressed in fantasy, and a lot of readers would probably forgive you for it.

Most fantasy authors don’t think of this, though. They just put Destiny on the rebels’ side instead. They’re fighting for the Flame Child destined to rule the world, so of course they’re going to win!

Have I mentioned lately how much I hate Destiny?

Okay. So you have Destiny, which you could relate to a guiding religious or philosophical vision. Do the rebels in bad fantasy convince other people of this? No. They just show up, the Flame Child does something nifty and stupid with magic, and everyone falls on their knees. Fickle, aren’t they? If they can shift their support from the rulers to the rebels like that, I don’t know that I’d trust them very much.

The underdog idea can be played very well. But it is not inherently a great one, and your heroes don’t deserve to win only because they’re outnumbered. Make sure they do have a reasonable way to gain some support and become formidable, or else that they engage in terrorist strikes, which can be effective but is abhorrent to a lot of fantasy authors.

8) Put some divisive politics in the rebels’ side. Rebel movements often fraction because people in the movement have conflicting ideas about how to achieve their goal. Two people start espousing just slightly different variations of the movement’s leading philosophy. They become entrenched in fanaticism, the fights between their supporters become more and more bitter, and in the end you have two (or more) splinter groups fighting each other as much as the government, easy prey for the rulers to swoop down and eat.

Then there’s the monolithic rebel movement of bad fantasy, where everyone smiles all the time and worships the leader. Did you know that that kind of simple happiness and obedience is characteristic of some people who’ve had a lobotomy?

This is actually one of the few criticisms I have of Carol Berg’s Rai-kirah saga, which is otherwise a good trilogy, some of the best fantasy I’ve read. The rebels in the second book seem to worship their leader, Blaise, and follow him all over the place, and start shrieking the moment it looks possible that he could be in danger. That changes in the third book, when they come into conflict with different rebel movements with different leaders, but there are very few questions about or challenges to Blaise’s leadership even when he makes some questionable decisions. Try to avoid this. Leadership based on charisma can be powerful, but it’s also subject to change if the leader pushes too far, or if someone joins the group who is that kind of doubtful, picky, clear-thinking, disbelieving person that most governments dread.

9) Introduce at least one semi-sympathetic person on the opposite side. So there are all these people supporting the opposing government. The author sets that up specifically so that the rebel heroes can be outnumbered.

Is it really possible that all the people supporting the regime are morons?

Yes, some political pundits might answer, but do that in a fantasy novel and you have a sucky message fantasy. Just as there can be many possible motivations for the mistakes the government made that sparked the rebellion in the first place, there can be many possible motivations for continuing to serve the government when the rebellion begins. Honest belief in a philosophy is one of the best, and easiest to portray (at least, given that the author often portrays complete belief on the rebels’ side), and one of the least-used. Try wearing the other side’s skin for a while, and see what happens.

Perhaps the rebels are hostile to whatever group this person is part of. If you have three groups in conflict, one majority and two minorities, and the rebel group represents one of the minorities, why shouldn’t the other one join the opposite side? That’s one that I can’t remember seeing used, either, except in the Rai-kirah trilogy.

Perhaps this person is worried about the possible consequences of the rebellion (see point 10). Rebellions are messy. Blood shed, lives spilled, and, in many real-world rebellions of the lower classes against the nobles, destruction of artworks, books, churches, and homes. A woman who has spent her whole life teaching in a music school might not like it when the rebels storm her school and smash up her harps—and her students.

Or perhaps the person on the other side is just, you know, human, and capable of being intelligent and understandable. Guy Gavriel Kay takes that route in Tigana, where Brandin of Ygrath is the “evil” sorcerer who conquered half the Peninsula of the Palm. He came down especially hard on Tigana, the province which killed his son, and used his magic to strip away their very name. And yet, when Kay takes the narrative close to him, he appears as an intelligent, cultured man with a high sense of humor. A lot of the readers like him better than the rebels who are trying to unseat him. (I do).

Good people do fight on the opposite sides of wars. It does happen.

10) Rub the rebels’ noses in the consequences of the rebellion. That cost I mentioned a few paragraphs ago? Yeah, it should apply to the rebels too. It’s ridiculous when the enemy can destroy every village it marches through, and yet the rebels somehow only kill people who deserve it and never trample any farmland, never ever. They probably don’t even step on any bugs as they walk along, singing their world’s equivalent of “Kumbaya” and holding hands. Meanwhile, the ruling government’s minions seek out rare species of beetle and step on them deliberately, of course, while singing their world’s equivalent of Marilyn Manson songs.

Actions have consequences. Your heroes shouldn’t get excepted from that. To use a personal example, from the last novel I wrote using a rebel hero: he had to realize, when he tried to get help from the villagers of his country, what two years of being without his special group’s magic had done to them. They had relied on magic for everything from building houses to protecting themselves from diseases. Two years without it, and cholera had ravaged them, their houses leaked in the rain and they had no idea how to repair them, bones broke and they had to let them heal crooked, they starved because of lack of magically created food… and on it went.

The consequences might not be quite that bad in your own fantasy world, but the rebels shouldn’t be blameless.



Given how many possibilities stories focused on rebellions offer, I don’t know why so many people manage to shipwreck them.




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[info]worldserpent
2004-08-06 05:49 pm UTC (link)
Hmm, historically, in the pre-modern period, most rebellions have failed terribly, or only been successful for a short time before the revolution devours its children, or, many of them fail afterwards, leaving an eventual return to the status quo. (Heh, there's a reason it's called a Revolution, really. It tends to return to the original position.)

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[info]limyaael
2004-08-06 06:14 pm UTC (link)
I think that's why a lot of fantasy novels use the words "rebellion" and "rebels" instead of "revolution" and "revolutionaries": it paints a picture of spunky underdogs instead of people who will become the next generation of the KGB.

Fantasy does have the advantages of magic, characters who are allowed to get away with being more heroic than normal, and (in a lot of medieval fantasy worlds) the dispensing with medieval realities like lack of education, fear, Church repression, and disease. But even a revolution that failed in its goals could be interesting to write about as long as you chose a character with better prospects than Winston Smith. 1984 is a great dystopia, but I think too many speculative fiction authors take it as the end-all and be-all of a self-consuming revolution. I actually like Zamyatin's We better, since the narrating character doesn't remember anything of what "used to be," but still kind of stumbles his way into revolution, and there's a slightly hopeful outlook towards the end of the story. (If one system of thought can come toppling down, another might).

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[info]avrelia
2004-08-06 07:01 pm UTC (link)
It is so cool! You love We!! Seriously, I am glad that this book is loved around here.

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[info]worldserpent
2004-08-06 10:04 pm UTC (link)
Heh, that could be why. But I tend to see rebellions as largely unsuccessful, and revolutions largely as successful, for some reason. (Perhaps historically, if it gets put down, it tends to be called a rebellion, and it tends to be called a revolution if it succeeds.)

Well, I don't think a dystopia is necessarily bad just because the main character ends up like Winston Smith did. Brave New World did something quite similar, in that it's shown that because the system already has taken rebellion into account, their rebellion was insufficient.

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[info]otakukeith
2004-08-07 05:05 am UTC (link)
I agree - revolution sounds more positive than rebellion, and we all know that history is written by the victors.

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[info]limyaael
2004-08-07 08:33 am UTC (link)
No, I wouldn't argue that a dystopia is bad because of that; it's what it's supposed to do, and if the characters just lived happily ever after, it would rather defeat the point. I just wish people didn't think that dying like Winston Smith did is the only way they can ever end. I'd like to see more done with it.

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[info]catfish42
2004-08-12 01:27 am UTC (link)
Oh, huzzah! Someone else who likes (and has heard of) We. I read a few chapters from it in 10th grade. Everyone else in my class hated it, I wanted to know the whole story so I bought the book.

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[info]avrelia
2004-08-06 06:59 pm UTC (link)
Well, the real, historical rebellions and revolutions sometimes had the most trifle catalysts. One person did a stupid thing, another person did a stupid thing – and in an electrifying social atmosphere it became a snowball of events.
Of course, in a book, I’d love to see what silly things people did and how they turned out to lead to a revolution.
Sometimes, the actual overthrowing of the previous regime goes unnoticed by general public until the consequences happen.

</i>Have I mentioned lately how much I hate Destiny? </i>

Hmm, may be, once… or twice… every week. ;) I hate it, too.

Actions have consequences. Your heroes shouldn’t get excepted from that.
And that should be The Ultimate Rule of storytelling.

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[info]limyaael
2004-08-07 08:34 am UTC (link)
If the writer is good at representing lots of little causes, I say go for it. However, if they aren't good at conveying to the reader what those causes are, it's entirely possible that the rebellion can seem to spring out of nowhere.

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[info]tavalya_ra
2004-08-06 09:40 pm UTC (link)
6. Oh, damn.

I knew I forgot something.

One person tried to change the government through the government (which is semi-democratic), and when that didn't work, she just couldn't take it any more. She knew a few people she could get riled up and decided to do it.

I can't pin-point one particular event. I know the government leader at the time was corrupt and that helped because it made people more receptive actually acting upon the idea that the status quo needed to be changed.

But you're right. There has to be a bit more to this.

Communication will play an important role in events.

Then there's the monolithic rebel movement of bad fantasy, where everyone smiles all the time and worships the leader.

Very few people are simling, but there is a guy who worships the leader. She thinks he's cracked.

9. Introduce at least one semi-sympathetic person on the opposite side.

Or a truely unsympathetic character on the rebel side. Like you say, being on the rebel side does not automatically made one a good guy.

10. That's going to be half the fun!

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[info]maureenlycaon
2004-08-06 10:20 pm UTC (link)
I think part of the problem is, history is told by the winners. And most writers are probably writing from the grade-school accounts of the American Revolution -- which were heavily romanticized and oversimplified "so the children won't find it too hard to read". So, naturally, they remember American rebels as heroic, suffering, and high-minded, and the British as entirely tyrannical and evil (and stupid). They also remember the war as a set of dramatic moments, isolated from all context: Bunker Hill, the signing of the Declaration of Independence, Valley Forge, yadda yadda. And oh, yes, the textbooks also make it sound so damned inevitable.

It can sometimes “just happen,” but if the reader doesn’t understand those circumstances, there is one unhappy reader on the other side of the book.

I think usually it does "just happen" -- in a sense. Those dramatic moments are not predictable: you can't say just which public execution, new tax or whatnot will create an enraged mob that is the beginning of a rebel movement. Ultimately, they're the product of a long, simmering history of public perceptions, actions both stupid and wise, circumstances and events with unforeseen consequences -- precisely the sort of stuff grammar-school textbook writers leave out of their books.

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[info]limyaael
2004-08-07 08:38 am UTC (link)
And it's even sillier in fantasy, because the American rebels had advantages most fantasy rebels don't: France's help, wealth and ships of their own even if not very many, lots of land to hide in which the British didn't know as well as they did, and guns.

No, the dramatic moments aren't predictable, but they're what a lot of people remember: the "shots heard round the world" and so on. I think a fantasy author should pick something like that to say, "Here's what people thought was the start of the rebellion (even if it really wasn't}." Also, I've read some fantasy books where the rebellions just seemed to pop out of nowhere, mainly through overuse of personal dislike and revenge. If the author isn't good at showing off tiny circumstances, he or she needs to pick the dramatic moment and stick with it.

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[info]shanra
2004-08-07 03:43 am UTC (link)
Good people do fight on the opposite sides of wars. It does happen.

*adores that phrasing*

Actions have consequences. Your heroes shouldn’t get excepted from that.

Is it me or do a lot of characters tend to prefer learning that law of life the hard way?
It's always fun to rub those consequences in your characters' faces. Especially when you know they're pivot points in their life. *grins*

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[info]limyaael
2004-08-07 08:40 am UTC (link)
Well, a lot of the heroic qualities that people like to put in their characters- courage, quick reactions, impulsive decisions to reach out and embrace something or somebody different even if it costs them- are exactly the kinds of things that get people into trouble. Not every decision needs to turn out badly, since I think fiction doesn't need to be exactly like life, but the author should know the world well enough to know when something has to.

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[info]shanra
2004-08-07 10:41 am UTC (link)
Not every decision needs to turn out badly, since I think fiction doesn't need to be exactly like life.

I dare say that not every decision in this world had bad consequences. ;) But you're right. It'd be nice to see more people pay attention to the bad consequences as well. Though it depends on the story also. Some consequences are, logically, not a main focus of the story (even if they're insanely large world-wise). It'd be strange if the writer suddenly started to focus solely on that.

Er... I can't think of a good example right now. I hope I'm making sense.

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[info]kalorlo
2004-08-07 07:13 am UTC (link)
They probably don’t even step on any bugs as they walk along, singing their world’s equivalent of “Kumbaya” and holding hands. Meanwhile, the ruling government’s minions seek out rare species of beetle and step on them deliberately, of course, while singing their world’s equivalent of Marilyn Manson songs.

Ahahaha. There needs to be an artistic equivalent of "plotbunny". Picturebunny doesn't quite sound as good...

There's a revolution-fantasy I have stuck in my head, Illusion by Paula Volsky, I think (according to the reading list I kept at the time, I read this 7 years ago so it must have made an impression). It was a French Revolution type of story. Lead character was a daughter of the nobility, who kept branded slaves. Cue a revolution in the cities, which eventually caught up with this girl after she got sent to court to be a lady-in-waiting to the queen. Magic in this world was entirely illusion-based and the revolutionary leader was a great orator in his own right, who also had an uncle he persuaded to use his magic to make people see and hear what they most wanted to from his speeches. Just to give him that extra advantage. We get an uprising of the common people (city-dwellers didn't tend to be slaves, iirc) and the nobility have to hide or flee since if they're captured they are first imprisoned, tortured and finally executed. The guillotine equivalent had a name and something of a personality - it lived to grind people up. People were thrown in naked, with only a rope binding their hands and after the machine had finished, all that was left was the bloody rope which was thrown to the crowds. (Clothes had a tendency to get tangled up in it).

Of course, it gets somewhat out of hand. There are rebels who don't agree with the brutality of the new regime, which quite quickly moves on to executing "traitors" and "noble-lovers" on flimsy or no evidence. The orator (who has set himself up at the head of the new regime) starts being called a tyrant. Eventually the counter-uprising becomes strong enough and the tyrant's uncle, who is something of a coward and had been threatened if he doesn't continue to help, has had enough. He uses his magic to reverse what he usually does, so with every word the mob grows more bloodthirsty until they eventually tear the tyrant apart, pretty much.

I think the more reasonable counter-revolutionary leader goes on to try and start a workable method of government. It's interesting that the heroine isn't one of the leaders. She mostly gets caught up with it by accident, when a slave she helped escape from her estate way back at the beginning finds her starving in the streets after she's the only one of her family who isn't executed. (She swapped places with a servant, who died in her place). He takes her in and happens to be one of the counter-revolutionaries. Yup, we have a slow-boiling love story included in here too. She actually changes gradually and believably from spoilt noble brat to decent person over the course of her experiences, which was another reason I liked the book.

Think I've rambled enough there... I would love to find that book again to see if it stands up to scrutiny now.

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[info]limyaael
2004-08-07 08:41 am UTC (link)
I think I started reading that once, but then ran out of time and had to return it to the library. I remember that it did sound different, at least from as far as I got (which was about the beginning of the revolution). Actual consequences to the nobles' actions, for one thing.

And let me know if you do draw that picturebunny. I'd love to see it. :)

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[info]shanra
2004-08-07 10:44 am UTC (link)
I've borrowed that book from the library several times now. I finally found time to read more in that yesterday. The style of the beginning grated me immensely now.

Somehow Time (or Fate :/) doesn't seem to like me reading that book. I gather from your comment it's worth reading though? ^-^

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[info]adaneth_djd
2004-08-07 11:55 am UTC (link)
I really enjoyed this two-parter on rebels, thanks so much. The Separatist rebellion is a huge part of my first three books, and your points 7 and 8 made me feel like I'm not doing too badly. The pathetic smallness of the Separatists in the first book is what helps them--The Dominion simply considers them too little a threat to ferret out and destroy, though they do keep tabs on them with spies. The Separatists only become a threat when they start forging alliances with other nations and races. And there is a little splintering going on. The Separatist second-in-command who gets 'demoted' at the end of my first book causes trouble in my 2nd when he breaks away with a fringe element (and weapons, food, and valuables, of course!) The strongest nation in the alliance in my third book backs out after the first assault. The Archmage of Glashowal really doesn't like having to deal with the political flak from the casualties, and the success of the first assault caused enough damage that he knows any Dominion invasion of his nation will be greatly delayed. So he bolts the alliance.

I'm glad you mentioned point 10. I have to think of a way to bring that home in the beginning of my 4th book--as well as the fact that some regions are going right back to the old status quo--trying to reinstate the tyranny they were freed from.

The catalyst point wasn't one I thought of. Each of my characters have their own personal catalyst, and they vary greatly. No doubt the news of the reappearance of the Subverted has a pivotal effect on forming the alliance. It would never have happened otherwise. I'll have to see if I can make that clearer.

Thanks for giving me a great deal to chew over! =)

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(Anonymous)
2004-08-07 07:09 pm UTC (link)
Whenever I read a rebellion fantasy that ends at the revolution's success, without portraying more than a little of the aftermath, I always picture the situation devolving into a horrifying Reign of Terror like the French Revolution did within a generation or so. I'd love to see more fantasies actually portraying that side of revolution.

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[info]sparrow_wings
2004-08-07 08:10 pm UTC (link)
Have you ever read Crown Duel by Sherwood Smith? It's not the best book in the world, but it has a pretty unique premise and execution: the heroine and her brother start a rebellion against the standard evil king, with no support from any other nobles. Predictably, they start to lose inside of a month. Heroine, who has a vehement dislike and distrust of 'court decorations' (i.e. the nobles who wouldn't help her) is captured, escapes, and learns that the Marquis who captured her is actually the leader of a much subtler and smarter rebellion comprised of aforementioned court decorations. The sequel deals with the aftermath and the reconstruction of the country, though I had a few problems with other aspects of it.

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[info]irian
2004-08-08 03:23 am UTC (link)
Illsion by Paula Volsky is a rather good fantasy that's patterned after the French Revolution. The heroine's a noble who later falls in with the rebels. And since it's patterend after actual historical events, we're pretty much sure that nothing will be one-sided, even among the ranks of the rebels.

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[info]irian
2004-08-08 03:25 am UTC (link)
Oops. That's Illusion and not Illsion...

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[info]calenturian
2004-08-09 05:52 am UTC (link)
Your points 8 and 9 raise another interesting issue - the idea that there might be any number of different factions all opposed to each other, as well as neutrals who don't care either way. Too often there are the Good Rebels and the Evil Rulers, and even the most minor characters have an opinion about which side is Right.

I'd love to see two mighty rebel crusades both march into a town, set up stages and denounce each other and the ruling class, while the townsfolk blithely go about their day ignoring all the speeches.

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[info]tasllyn
2004-08-09 10:15 pm UTC (link)
Have I mentioned lately how much I hate Destiny?

hate destiny, huh? i get the feeling you'd like my newest short story for elfwood.

::looks at her writing:: i don't believe it! i don't have a single mass rebellion in here! then again, i have a couple of individuals sort of rebelling....does that count?

i'm going to have to bookmark this and the previous rant. i really do need to plan out a rebellion sometime in the near future.

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[info]cimadness
2005-05-23 02:24 am UTC (link)
10) Rub the rebels’ noses in the consequences of the rebellion.
Have you ever read the Westmark trilogy, by Lloyd Alexander? I can't recall whether it has any fantasy in it, but it's certainly good about showing the brutality of partisan fighting, especially in "The Kestrel."

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[info]onyxflame
2006-02-26 08:48 pm UTC (link)
Good people do fight on the opposite sides of wars. It does happen.

Civil War, anyone?

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Hmmm....
[info]half_pace
2008-10-30 02:10 pm UTC (link)
Good is the side you're on. Evil is the side you're against. It comes down to perspective, at the end of the day.

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