Limyaael ([info]limyaael) wrote,
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Rant on amnesia/amnesiac characters
The amnesia rant won (by one vote) so here it is.



Note: This information is mostly on how amnesia can be used/misused in fantasy novels. Some of what’s said won’t apply to real-world situations.

1) If someone deliberately gave the protagonist amnesia, why? The first question that’s on the tip of my tongue when I hear about bad guys trying to erase the protagonist’s memory is: Why don’t they just kill her? There may be a good reason why, just as there may be a good reason why the Dark Lord’s attack on the heroine’s family manages to kill everyone except the infant menace to him, (the one who should logically be the most helpless), or why the evil guys abandon the kid in the woods instead of killing her. But too often, the authors don’t give a reason. Other times, it may be “Insane Dark Lord mutter mutter.” I’ve already said that I think insanity is an overplayed fault in fantasy villains, and anyway, it doesn’t keep his saner lieutenants from disobeying him and doing the prudent thing. Please, if your villains want to inflict memory loss on the heroine, give them not one reason, but two: a reason for the memory loss in the first place, and a reason for sparing her life.

There’s also the fact that amnesia is chancy as hell. It may last months or years or even be permanent, true, but it may also only last a few days. The victim may not recall what events led to her getting amnesia in the first place—it’s pretty common not to—but even that memory might return with enough time and patience. In fantasy worlds where there are mages with some form of retrocognitive magic, which can see into the past, the danger of the secret being discovered increases tenfold.

2) Keep the circumstances of the memory loss as simple and non-contrived as possible. No Rube Goldberg machinations, where “Oh, first she accidentally started a forest fire and then she rolled down a hillside and then she hit her head on a rock and then a moose fleeing from the fire stepped on her and then the villains couldn’t reach her because she tied them all up before she ran away from their camp and then…” ramblings are the order of the day.

One of the best memory losses I can recall reading is sustained by Morgon of Hed in Patricia McKillip’s Riddlemaster trilogy. It acts as a delay to keep Morgon in one place and let other people find him after a storm stops his ship, but no one bashed Morgon over the head in an attempt to keep him from talking; it came from an injury he sustained in the shipwreck. Even then, it lasted only one or two chapters, as far as I can recall, and didn’t drag on through the whole book. Morgon’s enemies kept trying to do what they were supposed to do, which was oppose him, not leave him an opportunity to escape their plans.

It’s possible to separate your character’s memory loss from enemies altogether, even though she might still have the bad guys hunting her. Perhaps she sustained a head injury in an accident. Perhaps she suffered from a disease or a sudden swift onset of massive pain, like a stroke, that damaged her memory. Perhaps she’s a telepath and memory loss is common to all telepaths after a while. (It never seemed right that telepaths, telekinetics, and so on could do their magic without paying any price at all). There are ways of getting amnesia into the plot and making recovery from amnesia a key part of a fantasy novel without unleashing the criminally stupid criminal bad guys on her tail.

3) People with amnesia do not generally forget everything. If that was the case, then your amnesiac character has no business talking or recognizing the people around her as human beings. Most amnesiac people retain their command of language, and that’s not cheating in a fantasy novel, unless you’re going to say that everyone who loses their memory except this character forgets how to talk. (A character with amnesia and aphasia, on the other hand, would be a big damn challenge to work with).

So, it’s not a requirement that the character forget her name, her country of origin, her family, or her favorite color. It would be more interesting, I think, to read about a character whose rescuer didn’t have to give her a silly made-up name, especially if the amnesia lasted the whole book. (I am one of those people who couldn’t read Marion Zimmer Bradley’s Firebrand because she changed the name of “Cassandra,” the disbelieved priestess of Troy, to “Kassandra” and it just looked so wrong to me. It’s even harder when the character has gone by one name for most of the book and then the author changes things around). It also would lend more poignancy to the character’s story if she could remember her brothers and sisters as young children but had no memory beyond perhaps the eighth year of her life. This would make her someone with part of a past, instead of a great blank mystery, and might lessen an author’s tendency to take a condition like amnesia and run it into the ground with “drama.”

You may also have a character who recalls events from her past, before her amnesia began, but can’t forge new memories afterwards. Most authors seem to prefer not to work with them, though, probably because it would prevent that character from taking an active part in discovering what happened.

4) Unless the fantasy world has very advanced magic or technology, an instant “cure” is cheating. This applies most in the cases of head injury, but also in the cases of fever, stroke, and so on. Above all, please don’t have characters assuming that all they need to do is bang the amnesiac character on the head again and everything will come back. How do they know this? They might as easily give the character aphasia, or blind her, or destroy what parts of her memory remain. And if they do have advanced enough knowledge of the brain to know just where to hit, I would expect them to have a solution more advanced than giving the character a tap on the head with a hammer or pushing her down a flight of stairs.

Likewise, be prepared to explain if it’s just a matter of having a mage or telepath look into the character’s head and discover where the answers are “hiding.” There are several major problems with this, not just one or two:

-We are back at point 1 like whoa. If the character lost her memory to malice, then why didn’t her enemies anticipate a mage or telepath finding out the answer?
-The memories may not be hiding. The memories may be destroyed. In the case of brain damage from a head injury, the likelihood would be much higher. It would be more worthwhile to have a mage go into a trance and reach back into the past, rather than trying to pick their way through the damaged landscape of another’s mind.
-How does the amnesiac character know that the mage or telepath won’t damage her mind further?
-If the cause of the character’s accident is supposed to be a mystery, and she won’t find out until later that her enemies are hunting her, then getting her memory loss reversed may not be a high priority. The person who rescues her might well assume the problem will reverse itself naturally. The rescuer might not have the money to pay for such a thing. The character herself may be content with the present situation, not in spite of but especially because she has no reason to think her memory loss is unnatural. (Also, see point 5). The mages and telepaths may live a distance away, or refuse to prioritize the character’s case because they have no reason to think it’s anything save a minor mystery. And so on. Authors actually cause more problems for themselves and not less when they make the loss so “mysterious.”
-If memory loss around the event that caused the amnesia is total, the character herself has no bits of the accident floating about her head to urge her on. (See point 6).

Beware as well of the fortunate coincidence where the amnesiac character just happens to stumble on a mage who knows the rare and magical art of mind-healing, or a hedge-witch who has herbs that cure memory loss, or something similar. There’s a line I rather like that goes: “Each piece of literature is allowed one, and only one, fantastic coincidence.” Asking your reader to suspend disbelief by telling them the amnesiac runs by sheer luck into the one person who can help them is stretching it. And too often, something like this is merely a prelude to a string of deus ex machina happenings which can make the reader put the book down in disgust.

5) Why is the amnesiac character so fired up to get her memory back, anyway? If she thinks she lost her memory in a malicious accident, then she might not want to remember who hates her enough to do that to her. If she lost it in an accident or disease, or what appears to be an accident or disease, then she has no reason to think it won’t return in time. If she suspects—and for most characters in a fantasy world, it would be rather a large suspicion—that she’s important enough to have hunters on her trail, then surely seeking help would reveal her. She might be well-advised to remain in hiding.

Basically, it’s not enough to turn your protagonist into an amnesiac. She must also be someone who is determined enough to find ways of restoring the memory, resourceful enough to persist in the face of discouragements, and has a reason to want to. If your character’s greatest desire is for a simple farming life, then why wouldn’t she just farm alongside her rescuer until her memory comes back to her? If she doesn’t remember that there are people waiting for her, why wouldn’t she find comfort with other people instead of agitating to return to her family? The problems increase because of her being in a fantasy world, not diminish. Most fantasy worlds have problems with travel and global communication. If the character was borne a long distance (as in a wrecked ship, a la Morgon of Hed), then it would be quite difficult for her family or lovers or enemies to find her.

Write someone whose personality will compel her to search out the truth behind the amnesia and work diligently to get her memory back. Don’t start with the amnesia and create your protagonist around that. It does no more good than building around a talent for fire magic instead of creating someone who could plausibly wield that fire magic.

6) Try to avoid the “somehow." You have to decide if the memory loss is going to be total or partial. Most important of all, you have to decide if the memory loss around the event causing the amnesia is going to be total or partial. Either way, try to get rid of “somehow.” This is the kind of thing where the character “somehow recalled shadowy dark figures threatening her,” then the next moment claims she remembers nothing about the event that made her amnesiac. Well, does she or doesn’t she?

One reason I get frustrated with “somehow” is because it’s the cause of much authorial cheating. It makes characters “somehow” know they have to follow people they’ve never met. It makes trainee mages “somehow” know secrets that other mages have to spend their lifetimes training to discover. And it makes amnesiacs “somehow” remember just enough to give off a vague sense of dread while not remembering enough to be useful. If the amnesiac remembers something about her accident or head injury or sickness or whatever, why does it always make her uneasy? Why is never something hopeful or neutral, or something her rescuers encourage her to interpret as hopeful or neutral?

Don’t avoid the work here, particularly if you plan to make the mystery behind the amnesia the true plot of the story. Let the character wander down some completely wrong paths, and don’t make them obvious red herrings. Let her recall things that will help her in concrete ways, instead of appearing and disappearing. Know the story yourself, so that you will know how to ease your readers and your character into the discovery instead of tossing out vague hints that could mean anything. (This is a problem that fantasy prophecies and broken memories share).



The technology rant is next.




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[info]aurorae90
2004-12-19 02:08 pm UTC (link)
Actually, Kassandra might be the standard Greek spelling...that would explain Herakles (which is a rare spelling)

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[info]inarticulate
2004-12-19 02:27 pm UTC (link)
Yeah, I'm fairly sure Cassandra is the... Romanized spelling? Some other country. The Ks are the more correct spelling, as far as I've been told.

But, then, I tend to prefer the names like Herakles because I think they sound better. ;)

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Spiff.
[info]jaquiel
2004-12-19 02:17 pm UTC (link)
Great rant, as usual.

One question: would you say that having selective memory (i.e. not remembering something because it's so traumatic that you refuse to remember) is contrived and silly? I've got a character who blocked out many of her childhood memories due to trauma, and even ends up wiping out half of her non-traumatic memories just because she refuses to remember anything but the very basics about her mother (who was the source of trauma in her life). She also ends up able to gloss over these memories by replacing them with very vague but happy things. Is this sort of replacement at all possible, or am I just being silly?

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Re: Spiff.
[info]paendragaan
2004-12-19 08:04 pm UTC (link)
Actually, that's quite possible. The human mind is infinitely changable. This is especially common with younger children who experiance tramau. The mind can't handle it, so it hides it away so it won't damage the child, in essence forgeting it.

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Re: Spiff. - [info]limyaael, 2004-12-20 06:37 pm UTC
Re: Spiff. - [info]blacktigr, 2005-03-07 01:40 am UTC

[info]topios
2004-12-19 02:21 pm UTC (link)
Weeeeell... we spell it Kassandra in Denmark.... but we also spell Icarus "Ikaros". It could have been worse. Like the horrible names most female characters seem to choose. And while we're at it, why is it almost always girls who get amnesea? ...I don't seem to remember any hero-looses-his-memory-oh-no plots. Might just be me...

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[info]deathglare
2004-12-19 02:52 pm UTC (link)
Yeah there aren't that many males in novels that loose their memories. That's something more common in other mediums of fiction.

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[info]nymeria
2004-12-19 02:30 pm UTC (link)
Good rant, thank you! *Bounces it onto a friend who is thinking of writing amnesia in a story*

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[info]inarticulate
2004-12-19 02:47 pm UTC (link)
Isn't brain damage as likely as amnesia? Or simultaneous? Or something. What bothers me about amnesia in fantasy is that it's not treated realistically on the extreme side, either. Bah. Love your rant-- it reminds me of this story/article I read about a woman who disappeared and they found again, and she remembered everything except the period of time from when she'd vanished to when they found her, or something like that.

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[info]tiferet
2004-12-19 03:12 pm UTC (link)
Is that a Godzilla cartoon icon? It looks like Stitch saying "My name is Godzilla!"

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[info]tiferet
2004-12-19 03:11 pm UTC (link)
I think part of the problem with 'somehow' is that people do have vague intuitions about things and they want to put that into a story. I've seen names on lists and had an odd feeling about them, and later I met the person and they turned out to be someone important in my life for a while. I've had odd urges to turn into bookstores I don't usually patronise and there was the exact book or piece of information I'd been looking for. This kind of thing happens to people, and whether or not you believe it's coincidence, it's a real thing. The problem is that in fantasy it is almost always so badly done.

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[info]limyaael
2004-12-20 06:40 pm UTC (link)
In a person's head, though, the connection between 'somehow' and a concrete result is clear; the person gives it an explanation, whether that be mystic intuition or chance or the law of averages or catching a glimpse of something in a mirror. In a fantasy, there's often no explanation, even of the mystical kind. The author uses 'somehow' in lieu of an explanation.

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[info]tavalya_ra
2004-12-19 03:38 pm UTC (link)
Reading this rant made me realize something. Not why does my villain give the herione amnesia, but why doesn't he. It would help him immensely.

I think I can do it and satisfy all the points you've hit upon in this rant. The sort of mental "magic" necessary to both induce and reverse the anmesia (it's going to be partial with memories hidden, not destoryed) is already in place in my world, which helps.

I am one of those people who couldn't read Marion Zimmer Bradley's Firebrand because she changed the name of "Cassandra," the disbelieved priestess of Troy, to "Kassandra" and it just looked so wrong to me. It's even harder when the character has gone by one name for most of the book and then the author changes things around).

All you missed was rant fodder. Book-a-minute summons up MZB's female protagonists as, "I am a strong independent woman... no I'm not... yes I am..." That was applicable here. I was also very irritated by Kassandra not taking her fate into her own hands because if she did so it would contradict her visions- oh no! Grrr.

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[info]limyaael
2004-12-20 06:40 pm UTC (link)
I've heard Firebrand in general trashed even by people who like MZB, and for more than just the heroine. I'm grateful now that I never read it.

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[info]kadaria
2004-12-19 04:54 pm UTC (link)
I think I will be keeping this in mind as I write during this break.
I havea characteri n my head from the Ariel projects. He's also one of the augmented but while on a mission he lost the majority of his memory when he was struck by lightening and his brain implant malfunctioned.

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[info]spaceoperadiva
2004-12-19 05:20 pm UTC (link)
Fabulous points. I'd throw in that a lot of head injury patients suffer other complications as well, such as anger management problems, impulsiveness and seizures as well as other things. A head injury/amnesiac character could have much more dimension than just "oh, woe is me, I can't remember my very important past!"

By the way, hello! I saw you quoted on metaquotes.

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[info]limyaael
2004-12-20 06:41 pm UTC (link)
Hi!

Other head injury complications seem nonexistent in the fantasy amnesiacs that I've read. They don't even suffer much dizziness or sudden recurrence of pain past the first injury.

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[info]luna_manar
2004-12-19 05:50 pm UTC (link)
Though they aren't fantasy, I highly recommend reading Robert Ludlum's Jason Bourne novels, The Bourne Idendity, The Bourne Supremacy, and The Bourne Ultimatum. That's probably the best example of a well-written amnesiac I've seen in contemporary literature (and don't judge the books by the movies, either--they're not all that similar).

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[info]damien_winter
2004-12-19 11:26 pm UTC (link)
True, the movies aren't the same as the books, but it _is_ the same Jason Bourne. Unlike The Bourne Legacy, in which Jason would have to be like, sixty, and heck, he was forty in Ultimatum and struggling.

Whoops. Got a bit sidetracked there. >_>

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[info]schtoltheim
2004-12-19 07:06 pm UTC (link)
Mental trauma is another good cause of amnesia, if done well. Take selective amnesia, for example. The brain can sometimes forget select memories or "rewrite" them as a method of coping. In the excellent video game Silent Hill 2, the main character has a case of selective amnesia brought on by severe mental trauma (Highlight for spoiler: he murdered his terminally ill wife.  Wasn't quite a mercy killing, but it wasn't a stone cold murder either.  To cope, he "forgot" the murder, constructing instead memories of her dying of the disease.  Problems begin occurring when he finds that his memories don't match facts in the real world, gradually building up to the revelation). Amnesia doesn't always have to be caused by an outside source, but can be a natural reaction of the mind to cope with Really Bad Stuff. Of course, this kind of amnesia can really be badly abused by lazy authors to explain plot holes and other sloppy writing, but when done well, can be really interesting to read.

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[info]auturgist
2004-12-19 07:59 pm UTC (link)
Awesome icon! ^_^

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[info]koh4711
2004-12-20 01:16 am UTC (link)
I think one of my biggest problems with a lot of amnesiac stories is that the character gets their memory back, and all of the sudden, it's back to the personality they had before, and there's no real sense that anything that's happened before was really important. And it absolutely kills anything interesting about the character.

In the book project I'm working on, I'm not quite dealing with amnesia, but I do tackle the subject of the character's past being untrue. I'm rather enjoying the fact that he doesn't REALLY want to know about it, and I have a potential avenue for a follow-up dealing with how he deals with what he finds out. It was one of the few things I liked about the movie Total Recall... the idea of a conflict between who a person was and who they are now... and I wanted to take it to another level and play with the idea. Not sure if I'm making it interesting, but I'm (hopefully) avoiding a lot of cliche.

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[info]limyaael
2004-12-20 06:43 pm UTC (link)
Supposedly, an amnesiac wants her memory back so badly that she hangs on to a lot of her former personality. *snort* I'm skeptical of that. If nothing else, she's going to have experiences while she was amnesiac that her "normal" self never had. I would expect them to influence her even after she gets her memory back.

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[info]the_s_guy
2004-12-20 01:30 am UTC (link)
Mental problems like amnesia are a challenge to write entertainingly, it's true. I'm still trying to figure out how to approach a character who has something like OCD, plus is either highly strung or cripplingly depressed as the result of his Generic Traumatic Event and subsequent rather brutal wartime experiences. He doesn't have amnesia, he's just mentally jammed between trying to deal with the memories and trying to move on.

Only problem is, he spends years being depressed and going nowhere, just trudging along in the behavioural rut of his life. Not really a protagonist. Unless, of course, something comes along to break him out of his endless routine. Which is a pretty standard Act 1.

There's probably a rant about Generic Traumatic Events. About the only mitigation I have for this character's GTE is that it's never determined whether or not he was accidentally responsible for it or not. This is part of the emotional trap - guilt vs hope.

I may have to make him a secondary, background or blocking character. On the other hand, his lack of recent contact with the rest of society does make for a potential 'voyage of discovery' arc.

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[info]sanguimane
2004-12-20 01:48 am UTC (link)
I have a character that suffers amnesia and she is a female but that said so are ninety nine percent of the other characters. She however tries to pretend that she doesn't have amnesia with hilarious results, well,I laughed anyway.

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[info]melarin
2004-12-20 01:56 am UTC (link)
Great rant.

I like the idea of a trainee telepath who "misplaces" his/her memories into someone else. If well written it could be interesting, but then again it could not.

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[info]childofatlantis
2004-12-20 05:30 am UTC (link)
I'm surprised you didn't mention Corwin of Amber as an example of someone so bloody-minded he goes after his lost memories despite having no clue what's going on. :) I rather liked the cleverness of his double memory loss leading to the eventual recovery of all of it.

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[info]limyaael
2004-12-20 06:44 pm UTC (link)
I did, in a comment to someone. :)

One thing I liked about Corwin was that he never did recover the part of his memory that led to the "rewakening," the car accident. (At least as far as I remember). Other people had to keep telling him about it, instead.

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[info]sythyry
2004-12-20 01:30 pm UTC (link)
Glirf. Now I want to do an amnesia story... there's this big messy political drama, and the villain slips the protag a dose of mind-poison, but it's not very successful, and the protag loses a chunk of memory -- say, all memory of music. And gets very obsessed with recovering those memories. To the point of ignoring the big messy political drama (which zie still remembers, but, well, the memory loss is personal.)

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[info]damien_winter
2004-12-21 10:20 am UTC (link)
Also true. I kinda miss Carlos, actually. Worthy of note is also that Bourne was born much earlier in the books, so the timeframe is different.

And I gotta wonder what they're going to do for the third movie.

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[info]ciaan
2004-12-22 07:16 pm UTC (link)
You may also have a character who recalls events from her past, before her amnesia began, but can’t forge new memories afterwards.

That was the case in the movie Memento, and while it was a well-structured and interesting to watch film, my main problem with it was that I've read multiple studies about that type of amnesia, and the thing is that people who have it don't ever know they have it. And the character in the movie always knew he had it. It was annoying and unrealistic. Yes, people with that form of amnesia do learn things, especially physical things, even though they can't remember them, such as the layout of buildings they live in or even, I believe, new skills, but they can never remember the fact of having this condition.

“Each piece of literature is allowed one, and only one, fantastic coincidence.”

Unless it's, for instance, To Say Nothing Of The Dog by Connie Willis, where the whole plot is about the increased slippage and coincidental events surrounding an incongruity in the space-time continuum...

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[info]marumae
2004-12-24 06:15 pm UTC (link)
This rant makes me really want to have your babies. I've always thought the amnesia idea is interesting but I have yet to find it done right. Have you ever done one? If so I'd like to read it, other then that it makes ME want to write one.

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[info]blunder_buss
2004-12-26 06:04 am UTC (link)
Oh wow, thanks. I'm plotting to use amnesia in a story I'm brewing, and this helps a lot.

With number 1, a manga called 3x3 Eyes did this very well. Pai was a huge threat to the bad guys, but the bad guys actually needed to use her. So they wiped her memory and made her think she was an ordinary school-girl that lost her memory in an accident. That way, she'd be in safe and in one place, so when the bad guys were ready to use her it'd be just a simple matter of just kidnapping a helpless girl. That's a lot easier than letting Pai keep her memory and hunting her down, fighting her, subduing her, and take her to their lair without her escaping.

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Telekinesis
[info]karenrei
2006-02-06 06:37 am UTC (link)
[quote]It never seemed right that telepaths, telekinetics, and so on could do their magic without paying any price at all[/quote]

I like the Pratchett concept of telekinesis. Sure, you can move objects around with your mind - but [I]Newton's laws still apply[/I]. So, you want to throw an anvil at an enemy with your mind? Sure, but expect to be driven into the ground when you first lift it, then thrown backwards across the room when you try to launch it forwards. An equal and opposite reaction, and all :)

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[info]onyxflame
2006-03-04 07:29 am UTC (link)
I think it'd be nifty to have a world where the price of magic was memory. Do enough spells and not only would you forget your first kiss, but the fact that you got married and had 3 kids. Do too many and you forget how to do magic altogether.

Not only would this lead to the most powerful mages being the equivalent of Alzheimer's sufferers (and just on the very edge of going too far), it could also create mages who act very unmagelike (according to the usual stereotype) and try to experience as many things as they possibly can so that they have more things to forget. Sounds like a nice twisted society to me. "Oh Darinne, I love you so much! Let's sleep together (so I can cast that spell to kill Mr. Villain tomorrow)!"

Or hmm...how about a god who got amnesia? Now THAT'D be funny. ;)

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[info]x_haphazard_x
2007-01-13 06:19 am UTC (link)
I am totally using this. In the world I'm working on, though, the only ones that have to pay in memories are healers, so when they lose memories, they have a good excuse (which does get old after a while). They have to be very good at keeping notes and journals and a lot of them have assistants and such to remember things for them. They usually work until they're pretty much living in a haze and nothing can stick in their heads, and at that point it's time to go on vacation.

So they go on vacation, and then they go back to work and they... don't... remember... any of it.

That, and there are urban legends of healers coming back from wars and entering the wrong homes of widows, and because they need someone to support them and the healer is so wiped he can't tell the difference, the healers end up with the wrong wives for years on end.

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[info]minkhollow
2007-01-12 05:33 pm UTC (link)
Drive-by comment: [info]gehayi linked to your master list of rants the other night, and I've been reading a bunch of them. Good stuff.
(It never seemed right that telepaths, telekinetics, and so on could do their magic without paying any price at all)
...Now I have a wheelchair-bound telekinetic (who is Not Happy At All with the trade-off, might I add) in mind. If I can figure out anything else, that could prove fascinating. XD

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